If you have any suggestions for challenges, tournaments, ongoing fights, ideas for this blog or anything else Fightclub related, please feel free to add them in a comment below. We may or may not take them into consideration, just depends what mood the Boss is in at the time!
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We’ve had discussions recently about the lack of critiques in Fightclub. The main reason for this being that the normal rounds happen so quickly that they’re not always possible. However, in the longer monthly challenges and tournaments there’s no reason why critiques wouldn’t be possible. I think the best thing to do is, if anyone wants a critique, then ask for one, and everyone will do their best to help out.
I posted these ideas over at IFX but this seemed like a better place to put them. They’re only rough so feel free to comment:
1. Ongoing brawl
At the start of each month contestants announce their intention to compete and put forward the character they wish to use, any of the other contestants can then use these in their own images. If someone wants to fight a charater who has not been nominated they can ask permission from that character’s owner.
The fight lasts one month during which each contestant must post 4 WiPs (I know this is an increase but you’ll see why additional involvement in this phase is valid in a moment) to be a contender for the monthly victory. WiPs can be anything from animations to 3D to a doodle on the back of a napkin in biro.
At the end of the month contestants post an image in a finals thread showing one or more of the nominated contestants in a state of conflict. This time these can however have already been used during the WiP phase (of course they could be a completely new picture). I thought this would reward those who had taken part in the fight even if they didn’t come up with a final, polished image – during Fighting in the Aisles some people contributed greatly and came up with good work (some of the comic pages must have taken a while) but didn’t manage a final piece so weren’t eligible to win which I thought was a shame as Fightclub’s always been as much about the fight as the final.
The work added to the finals thread can also be anything from animations to a doodle
The winner gets the title of that months top brawler.
Unless contestants state they are dropping out the next monthly brawl begins from where the previous one ended, creating an ongoing narrative.
2. Fightclub League
This works in exactley the same way as Fighting in the Aisles except the votes tallied at the end of the month (week, fortnight) are added to a league table as points. After an agreed period of time or challenges the contestant with the most points is the league champion. To be eligible for points during a month a contestant must vote on the finals thread, otherwise any points they get are void. The contestant with the most votes at the end of the month gets the title of most valuable fighter for that month. Contestants can use as many characters as they like and still retain the points from other characters they may have used earlier.
To put a further twist on this contestants can either enter the competition as individuals for personal glory or as a team with one or more people (if you can bear to share the prize). Each member of a team must add at least two WiPs per month the team enters but only one image is needed for the final – this can be either a collaborative effort or the work of one team member. Team members do not have to compete in every round. Any team member gets a winners medal even if they only ever added 2 WiPs so once you decide to compete in this way the spoils are shared even if only one person does all the work. If someone who has already competed as an individual joins a team their previous points are deleted.
Anyone/team can join the league at any time but obviously they’ll have to catch up with those who have already been playing. Contestants do not have to compete every month but again their competitors will continue to pick up points in their absence.
3. Free for all
An ongoing fight explodes with any character who has been entered involved, there is no one final thread. During the ongoing fight players can challenge other contestants who have posted to to main Free for all thread. If a match is agreed these two (or more) have a fortnight to complete a final piece at the end of which votes are taken and a winner announced. At the end of an agreed period all of the winning images advance to a championship round where the pictures from the duels that have taken place are voted on over the period of one week (no further work required) and a new Fightclub champion is crowned. Players can compete in as many one against one duels as they like and should a player have multiple winning images they nominate the one they like best for the championship round.
there’s some really good suggestions there Anders. i posted an idea on IFX but in support of the official fightclub blog i’ll post it here too
it’s similar to the team part of Anders league idea, basically a tag team match, two on two, where the final image must either be a one piece worked on by both members of the team or two seperate pieces which can fit together in some way or another. 2 wips per team member and it must be clear as to how each image fits with the others if there is more than one image.
I like the idea of two seperate pieces that fit together.
I quite like the idea of tag team or collabs too, gonna have to think about the best way for this to work to keep it moving along, we haven’t done that before. And the league idea seems great too, it would be great way to keep everyone motivated at once, instead of just two people working at a time. I think the biggest problem with keeping a monthly thing ongoing is everyone’s availablity, but I guess as long as new people are coming along then it should be grand.
I’d agree availability is definitely the number one issue, so something where people can settle on a time that suits them would be a bonus. I’ll admit that the league idea is my personal favourite, closely followed by the Free for all.
i’d definitely second (or possibly third)the league idea too, i for one would love to try to fight my way to the top of the pile!
I am all for the league, it would be excellent motivation.
Looks like the league could be a popular choice with everyone, it would certainly keep the interest up for a more extended period of time. Just need to figure the logistics out. It might be good to have a limit on the number of ‘matches’ that one contestant could have so that anyone joining late could catch up and still have a chance making up points. There wouldn’t have to be a time limit on their final image, but that would be weighed up by the fact that the quicker you got a pic done the quicker you could move onto the next one, and get more done. I also think it would be a good idea to run this over a few months. The voting thing could be a bit tricky tho. Just gonna have to mull ove rthis a bit more.
well it would certaintly encourage people to draw faster and more often, thats one thing i struggle with. but it could be (at least to begin with)a bit one sided in favour of the people who can already pump out work at a fantastic pace. for the voting you could have each contestant having a permanent finals thread where all their final pieces go and everyone votes on there, at least whoever counts up the votes won’t have to sift through one massive thread with votes for everyone on it. and then a single thread for results. too much work maybe? just musing.
For the leagure its only actually possible for a contestant to fight twice per month for fortnightly rounds or four times a month for weekly ones so its not quite as mammoth as it first seems. Theoretically over three months a fighter could only contest six fights were we to stick to fortnightly deadlines. I think you’d have to be superhuman to compete weekly over the entire period.
As for voting I think it’d be cool if there was one post where everyone could put their votes so they were all together rather than spread across numerous comments. No idea how this would be achieved though.
Here’s the current list for challenge ideas:
1. A league
2. A war – each side made up of Fightclubbers
3. A war – each side made up of contestants’ own characters
4. Free-for-all
5. Collaboration – 1 final image worked on multiple people
6. Ongoing brawl
7. Campaign system/Risk
8. Blood Bowl
9. Tag-team
10. Bar room brawl.